Can I just say that I think this is the way Mulan should appear int the parks. In the beginning of the movie they make it very clear that the dress she wears to meet the matchmaker is not comfortable nor does it represent her personality. She spends the whole of the film proving that she is not a prize to be won or just a pawn to be married off at earliest convenience. She proves her worth in this outfit. She saves China in this outfit. She falls in love in this outfit. She risks her life, makes her strongest friendships, and changes the entire country IN THIS OUTFIT. Then they have her walk around the park in the same outfit she wore in the first scene of the movie and I think it is really negative toward her character. That is not who she is.
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TRIGGER WARNING: BLATANT FUCKING RACISM.
So. Disney Channel’s relatively new show Jessie features a girl nannying for the adopted children of a pair of hollywood moguls. One of these children is the Indian boy named Ravi, who comes into the clip at about 0:50.
This character is pretty much the most blatant racism I have seen on a tv show, especially directed towards kids, in a very long fucking time, if not IN MY WHOLE LIFE.
The whole character hinges on the idea that Ravi is Indian! and has quirky Indian culture! and doesn’t know about American things! and has a lizard named MR. KIPLING and says things like “I AM A HUMAN SAMOSA!!” when inside a sleeping bag and just
that’s the joke
the joke is that he is Indian
I mean seriously just watch this clip I cannot even talk about this
The fact that this is airing right now and no one is outraged and Disney is AIRING THIS RIGHT NOW
makes me want to punch things and also cry out of fucking frustration this is terrible
Commenting is disabled on the Youtube video but I just thumbs-downed the fuck out of this video.
UGH WHAT THE FUCK
BECAUSE NOT USING OFFENDING STEREOTYPES AND CREATING AN ACTUAL WELL ROUNDED CHARACTER IS SO OVERRATED.
I’m surprised they didn’t pull out a Bollywood joke.
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first off, i’d like to say i completely agree with the image and disgusting appropriation of other cultures for cheap laughs and entertainment.
when i was a kid (like, five or six) i absolutely loved pocahontas, because i thought she looked like me. we both had long black hair and we both had (at least what i thought) the same skin color. so, one year, my mum made me a pocahontas halloween costume and i even had the necklace and arm tattoo (but as an arm band). i collected the toys and even had the soundtrack.
i’m older now and i have a little more sense in me to know that i am not native american. i am portuguese. we are not the same. and dressing up as a native american, even if it was a fictional character, was probably not the best choice.
but that’s in my past. at the time, i was just happy to have someone i thought looked like me. my mom probably didn’t think much of it either since i doubt she was reading articles or books on cultural appropriation (my parents can read enough to get by, but they really don’t like reading particularly in english for obvious reasons. it’s been almost twenty years and i still get asked how to spell or say certain words). parents today though—if you are able and know better, then you shouldn’t be dressing up your kids as native americans or banditos or gypsies. and i wish i could send this message up to corporate too, but i doubt they give two fucks what i think.
ugh word this. I definitely dressed as her as a kid because she was my favorite Disney character, and her ideals were something I looked up to as a kid. But still, that wasn’t the proper thing to do. And while I won’t defend my mother’s ignorance, I also understand it isn’t something her generation thought of (hell she’s ignorant in a lot of ways that I think were a product of how she was raised/grew up), but it’s important to think of these things, and to also learn that hey, these are real people and we shouldn’t be doing this.
dressing up as a character isn’t the same as dressing up as a race. while dressing “like a native american” is wrong, i don’t think dressing up “like your favorite character” is quite the same. it’s a small technicality, but i think it’s important.
What Katya said. <3
By these people’s arguments, dressing your child up like Tiana would be appropriating African Americans, dressing your child up like Rapunzel would be appropriating Germans, dressing your child up like Belle would be appropriating the French, where does it end? So children shouldn’t be allowed to dress up in costumes unless they are representing their own culture? If so, how is that even a costume? Are children not allowed to pretend and dream anymore? Geez guys.
I would also like to say that “Cowboy” is a style in clothing stores, but you don’t see any of them complaining that they’re not being taken seriously as a people.
Aright, I’m going to address some of the concerns brought up as best I can.
Dressing up as a character ISN’T the same as dressing up as a race. But, quite accurately as the above pointed out, it is a SMALL technicality in this case because Pocahontas is seen by mainstream white culture *to be a representative of all native americans.* Therefore, if she does not accurately represent some, let alone all, native americans (which she does not), then she is a problematic character to costume up as.
Dressing your child up as Tiana is not appropriating African Americans (at least, not that I’m aware) because she is not assumed to stand for all African Americans. When children dress up as Tiana, they are putting on a dress, a normal dress, and not an inaccruate version of what Disney thought a native american female would wear.
Rapunzel, Tiana, and Belle’s movies had little to nothing to do with their perceived/implied cultures and didn’t really do anything to misrepresent them to their young audiences. Pocahontas’ movie and character had everything to do with the white, majority culture’s perception of Native American culture. Therefore, these situations are inherently different.
Also, there is no underlying assumption in American culture that German, African american, or french culture is something we can take and use for ourselves (for the most part). There is no underlying assumption that all “real” versions of this culture only exist historically and not present day. German and French cultures also have a lot of privilege in and outside of the United States that Native cultures do not have (obviously, african americans do not hold as much systemic privilege as these groups). So again, these characters are not the same and cannot be held to the same standards of what is “acceptable,” because their cultures and portrayal of said cultures are not the same.
Trust me, there are tons of costumes out there that children can wear that don’t involve disrespecting, mocking, or stereotyping another culture. You can find one if you look hard enough through the approximately 5,000 options kids have in stores nowadays.
The cowboy point was not really a good one, unless you’re going to make a point that “cowboy culture” has been similarly treated by white culture as native culture has been. That would be patently false and offensive. Cowboys have long been held up as “hero figures” and are not really a culture by themselves- you can maybe say it’s a subculture based upon an OCCUPATION, but that’s what it was: a job. Just because a bunch of old movies portray “cowboy v. Indians” does not mean they’re equivalent cultural groups.
Also, remind me of the times that Cowboys were long historically abused by the culture that overtook them. Tell me about the cowboy Trail of Tears. Look up for me the time America redacted on its treaties and didn’t pay the cowboys for the land it strongholded from them. Remind me of all the times America portrayed cowboys as brutal savages in its movies and books. Let me know how many cowboys are still alive today, stuck on reservations of shitty land the government has allotted them after taking all the good parts. Leave me a link detailing how European culture forcibly oppressed/killed/eliminated many parts of cowboy culture. No- that never happened, so once again, “cowboy” style being in clothing stores or worn as costume is not the same as native american appropriation.
YES YES BURY THE NATIVE AMERICAN CULTURE, IT MUST ALL BE WASHED AWAY.
First the semantics of why your argument is incorrect: Why is it bad for people to dress up as one particular Native American for Halloween? According to your logic, it is absolutely horrendous for people to dress up as any character in anything, ‘because that isn’t a proper representation of their culture.’ Really? If I dressed up as Julius Caesar, am I pooping on Roman culture? He’s really the only Roman I can think of off the top of my head, and I would go so far as to say that he’s representative of Roman culture.
“Rapunzel, Tiana, and Belle’s movies had little to nothing to do with their perceived/implied cultures”. Wow, that’s ethnocentric. It’s like saying “nuh uh this movie isn’t in a weird language, it’s in english!”
When people speak in a British accent, are they also sending a big “fuck you” to Britain? You make it sound like such a sin to borrow from other cultures. Shall we outlaw french toast? People dress up as Jamaicans. Ban the red, yellow, and green. You know, I hear pizza was invented by the Italians. Cross that off your list of allowable things too.
And don’t think that I don’t know the hardships that Native Americans went through. Have you read of the genocide by Christopher Columbus? The Trail of Tears is the tip of the iceberg.
I think Native American culture is awesome. I love Egyptian culture too. I especially love how Pocahontas is perhaps the most famous movie to have a Native American protagonist, and the sheer amount of cultural progressiveness to widely accept Native Americans in a good role instead of the old cowboy movies where Native Americans were in front of the barrel of the gun is remarkable. Pocahontas is progressive, and you’re trying to deny people the right to enjoy it. Maybe if Native American culture weren’t made so taboo by people like you it could diffuse into our culture more.
So not only do I disagree with your argument, but your underlying point is also close-minded.
Iono I agree with feministdisney
Peter Pan by Sam Novak
YEAH MORE NATIVE AMERICAN MISAPPROPRIATIONS
“squaw” literally means vagina. Thanks, Disney.
… Ever had that weird feeling where you suddenly ship three new things at once? Yo.
Seriously. The Philip/Eric couple would just be adorable.